E5-2620 v3 dedicated servers?

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E5-2620 v3 dedicated servers?

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Have you guys ever looked into what it might it cost to offer E5-2620 v3 dedicated servers? Just thought I'd mention this, as other hosting providers have caught onto the benefits of doing this.

The single threaded down a little bit at 1,692; but this could potentially be a relatively economical six core option, with the availability to double it up, without consuming additional space within a data-center cabinet.
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We are considering offering E5 dedicated servers. Our customers value performance, so if we do, we will go with a latest-generation processor at a higher speed, such as the E5-1650 v4 or E5-1680 v4. E5-26xx processors do not offer high enough clock speeds for dedicated servers built with them to compare favorably to E5-16xx processors or E3 processors, and we've seen no demand for dual-processor configurations, so we would not use an E5-26xx.

I have not found that cpubenchmark site to accurately represent game server performance.
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An E5-2620V4 could be a pretty attractive option, due to being able to offer eight cores for a little bit more than the price of four. There really isn't any higher core count options that offer the consistency of dedicated. Any the ones you've mentioned (especially the E5-1680 v4) could shoot the costs through the roof!

I've ran some pretty intensive game-servers on the equiv e5-2620 v3, it's very powerful. IE. cranking Garry's Mod up to a 32 slots and a 66 tick-rate on a kvm hypervisor. I have never received anywhere near this high performance of any of your e5-2690v2 VPSs. To this date, the e3-1270 v1 dedicated i'm running the same server on in Chicago is unavailable to beat that UK2 VPS in London!

Have you thought about at-least putting a couple of these in a cabinet and seeing if they sell? Other major hosting providers are currently using the E5-2620v4/e5-2620v3 like crazy!
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If someone on a e3-1270 had the opportunity to double their core count and power with a e5-2620v4, that would be amazing. I don't know actual costs here, but $60 more a month seems like a good figure. My clan for instance is running a secondary VPS for this cost. I'm not sure if they would go for it or not; but that would definitely seem like a pretty attractive move to them.
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This would be great :) Maybe even do a pre-order to gauge how many people want one.
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stickz wrote:An E5-2620V4 could be a pretty attractive option, due to being able to offer eight cores for a little bit more than the price of four. There really isn't any higher core count options that offer the consistency of dedicated. Any the ones you've mentioned (especially the E5-1680 v4) could shoot the costs through the roof!
An E5-1680 v4 is far faster than an E5-2620 v4 (3.6 GHz versus a paltry 2.1 Ghz). A VDS here on an E5-2697A v4 would be faster than a dedicated E5-2620 v4 machine, so it wouldn't make sense to have that offering.

My general rule of thumb is that if a machine is too slow to be used in our regular standalone-game-server system, it's not something that game server clients would want, either. I would never use an E5-2620 v4 in our standalone-game-server system. Since an E3-1270 v5 is perhaps 70% faster on a per-core basis, and much more useful for hosting game servers, I'd rather just use one of those. (I'd also much rather have a 6-core E5-1650 v4, since it would outshine an E5-2620 v4 in every way, and at a similar price point for the hardware.)
Have you thought about at-least putting a couple of these in a cabinet and seeing if they sell? Other major hosting providers are currently using the E5-2620v4/e5-2620v3 like crazy!
We have tried selling the E5-26xx machines before and they were a complete and total bomb. We had a couple of takers on the E5-1660 machines that we offered, but not many. I seriously doubt that these machines are selling well at other providers, and if a provider is using them for game servers, they are not thinking long-term (which is good for us!).

If it's not obvious, I give a lot of thought to hardware purchases here. I scrutinize every new generation of processors to determine what offerings make sense.
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Edge100x wrote:
stickz wrote:An E5-2620V4 could be a pretty attractive option... Any the ones you've mentioned (especially the E5-1680 v4) could shoot the costs through the roof!
An E5-1680 v4 is far faster than an E5-2620 v4 (3.6 GHz versus a paltry 2.1 Ghz). A VDS here on an E5-2697A v4 would be faster than a dedicated E5-2620 v4 machine, so it wouldn't make sense to have that offering.
Would there be anything stopping an e5-2620v4 from turbo'ing it's way up to 3.0ghz broadwell? The problem with VDS, is it's hard to always get the highest level of consistency possible. And when people would like to move larger machines to a e5-2697 v3/4, they are often not available when requested.

If an E5-2697A v4 is as fast you claim, does this mean 10 threads is better than a dedicated e3-1270 v1? Of course speaking in-terms of game-servers, where single threaded needs to be as strong as possible.

Edit: I've been testing the E5-2620v3 for awhile now and it's been beating the e3-1270v1 in every case.
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