Looking to switch providers

[JayCat]

Hey John,
We have had our clan servers running on another provider for a while and have had problems with it randomly crashing on us. We have gone through the standard blame game of "It must be your plugins"

We got it down to the basics of the following:
MMS 1.8
Sourcemod 1.3
Socket 3.0.0 alpha
Kigen's Anti Cheat

We are still having issues with the server crashing. We are looking to change our provider and are looking at you.

We are not looking to run a bunch of plugins but would like stuff like:
sm_cash
sm_skinchooser
weapon_restrict
spraytrace

These are the main plugins that we want running. What did you think?

[IcEWoLF]

The crashing problem could be Kigen, you running the socket version or the non socket?
My server use to crash when I use to use Kigen, once I switched to the non socket version it ran fine without crashing.

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Here is a list of plugins I run:

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[SM] Listing 54 plugins:
01 "Rock The Vote" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
02 "Player Commands" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
03 "Quake Sounds" (2.7) by dalto, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, and psychonic
04 "Sm_Cash" (1.2) by ferret
05 "Fun Commands" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
06 "Bounty" (1.0.9.0) by Shane A. ^BuGs^ Froebel, FlyingMongoose, and stoic
07 "Death Beam" (1.0.1) by Peoples Army, AMP
08 "Basic Commands" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
09 "RateChecker" (0.2) by pRED*
10 "HP Left" (1.2.1) by InterWave Studios team
11 "Sound Commands" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
12 "Damage report" (1.1.10) by [30+]Gemeni
13 "Kigen's Anti-Cheat" (1.1.9) by Kigen
14 "Reserved Slots" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
15 "ATAC Counter-Strike: Source" (2.5.0) by FlyingMongoose
16 "gameME Plugin" (3.2) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
17 "Admin File Reader" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
18 "RCON Lock" (0.4) by devicenull
19 "Players Votes" (1.3.2) by pZv!, The Resident
20 "TeamSwitch" (1.3) by MistaGee
21 "Spray Tracer" (5.7) by Nican132, CptMoore, Lebson506th
22 "Weapon Restrictions" (3.0.2) by Liam
23 "M3Motd - MOTD / Rules Display" (0.2.1) by M3Studios, Inc.
24 "Teamspeak join command" (1.2) by Berni
25 "Unconnected detection" (0.0.1.0) by devicenull
26 "SM Super Commands" (0.51) by pRED*
27 "Basic Chat" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
28 "Halftime teamswitch" (1.0.5) by [30+]Gemeni
29 "Team Balance" (2.2.2) by dalto
30 "Admin Help" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
31 "Fun Votes" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
32 "Team Bets" (2.1) by GrimReaper - Original by ferret
33 "Weapon Logging" (2.8) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
34 "Advanced Team Attack Control" (2.5.0) by FlyingMongoose
35 "Name Checker" (1.3) by Silent_Water
36 "Forlix FloodCheck" (1.54) by Forlix (Dominik Friedrichs)
37 "Basic Votes" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
38 "Nextmap" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
39 "Admin Menu" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
40 "Advanced Client Redirect" (1.0) by Olly/Tobi
41 "Basic Comm Control" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
42 "Anti-Flood" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
43 "High Ping Kicker - Lite Edition" (1.0.0.1) by Liam
44 "MapChooser" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
45 "SourceAdmin" (1.2.4) by AlliedModders LLC
46 "ATAC Punishment Slap" (2.5.0) by FlyingMongoose
47 "Advertisements" (0.5.5) by Tsunami
48 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
49 "Map Nominations" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
50 "HLstatsX Plugin" (2.8) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
51 "ATAC Punishment Slay" (2.5.0) by FlyingMongoose
52 "Client Preferences" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
53 "KnifeMug" (2.0.0) by FlyingMongoose, sslice
54 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.3.1) by AlliedModders LLC
L 02/13/2010 - 22:04:15: rcon from "206.253.195.193:39712": command "sm plugins list"
 

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[Edge100x]

Thanks for your help, IcEWoLF .

JayCat, unfortunately it's very difficult to troubleshoot your server as it is now, since we aren't hosting it. But, I would definitely recommend trying without plugins entirely, or with just the base SourceMod install if you absolutely need it, to rule them out before you look at anything else. Also, have your provider turn on -condebug for you so that you can get the full log output -- this would let you see much more easily whether it's a plugin.

The main things that wouldn't show in the condebug log would be messages about it being crashed by the rcon exploit (one that is becoming more and more prevalent). When that exploit is used, it only shows up in the "true" server console, and not in any logs. For our Linux servers, we have a system that captures that true output and bans anyone who uses the rcon exploit on a server automatically.

[JayCat]

Thanks for your quick replies. We did try pretty much everything. We even had our scrim server crash with a mdmp file. It was a stock css install without sm intalled at all.

Anyway, after reading the forums here and seeing the good and the bad posts, we have decided to give you guys a shot at our business.

Last night we started our account of the 4 core vds package. I guess that I am so used to using tcadmin that I am so confused on doing everything. I can't see anywhere that tells you how to ftp into our server.

Is there a phone number that we could call to get some basic help to get things started?

Oh, and yes I was using the sockets version of kac.

[Edge100x]

For virtual dedicated serves, we provide extensive software help through a dedicated forum here: http://www.nfoservers.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=44.

I wouldn't recommend running an FTP server unless you need to give access to someone other than the owner -- I say that because you can just upload files through Remote Desktop or SFTP (depending on the OS) instead, or just download them directly to the VDS. If you'd prefer to run FTP, though, I would suggest going with FileZilla: http://www.nfoservers.com/forums/viewto ... =44&t=4098

[JayCat]

Thanks. I got filezilla running on the server and am in the process of uploading our files. It took me a bit to figure it out but it looks like we are ok for now.

Thanks for you help and I will post again if I need more help.

[Edge100x]

Sounds good

[JayCat]

Well we did have a mdmp file show up this morning on the server after running for three days. I guess I could go back and run the older 1.1.9 no sockets version of kac. I will be giving up some of the newer features.

Sad face.

[Edge100x]

There are so many exploits in CS:S right now that it's tough to say whether your version of KAC was really the culprit. Did a console log suggest this?

Are you running any of the anti-exploit plugins and techniques mentioned here?

http://code.devicenull.org/index.php?ti ... 2_Exploits

[darkvortex]

Not to plug gamesurge but check out #sourcemod on Gamesurge IRC the developer for those plugins that Edge is talking about is there and there has been alot of talk recently about these attacks.

[Edge100x]

There's no shame in plugging GameSurge

[JayCat]

I have added the dos attack fixer and the Forlix FloodCheck. The rest of what is below was already in place.

Windows server 2003
Meta mod 1.8
Sourcemod 1.3
Sockets 3.0.0 Alpha

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           01 "Admin File Reader" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           02 "Admin Help" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           03 "Admin Menu" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           04 "Anti-Flood" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           05 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           06 "Basic Chat" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           07 "Basic Comm Control" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           08 "Basic Commands" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           09 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           10 "Basic Votes" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           11 "Client Preferences" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           12 "ELO Ranking" (1.2) by Mike + R_Hehl
           13 "Forlix FloodCheck" (1.54) by Forlix (Dominik Friedrichs)
           14 "Fun Commands" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           15 "Fun Votes" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           16 "Kigen's Anti-Cheat" (1.2.0.8) by Kigen
           17 "Nextmap" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           18 "No Team Flash" (0.3) by SAMURAI and Kigen
           19 "Player Commands" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           20 "Quake Sounds" (2.7) by dalto, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, and psychonic
           21 "RCON Lock" (0.4) by devicenull
           22 "Reserved Slots" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           23 "SM Cash" (1.3) by brizad
           24 "SM SKINCHOOSER" (1.6) by Andi67
           25 "Sound Commands" (1.3.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           26 "Spray Tracer" (5.8) by Nican132, CptMoore, Lebson506th
           27 "Weapon Restrict" (2.2.1) by Dr!fter

I will let it run some more and let you know.

[JayCat]

Sorry for posting another reply so soon but it turns out that it crashed again after I made those changes but before I made the above post. This time it made 2 mdmp files. One of them is huge, about 9MB.

Also, I am not sure if this is related but I had HLSW open and down in the task bar I had an error.

15:42:36 Error in CHLSWSocketxxxxx(10055) An operation on a socket could not be performed because the system lacked sufficient buffer.

I am unsure if that was an error from HLSW from losing connection with the server or if it was an error from the server.

[Edge100x]

That one looks like it was a HLSW-specific error.

Did anything show in the streaming logs, though? What were the last few log entries?

[JayCat]

The log files in cstrike/logs/?
Or addons/sourcemod/logs?