HLGuard 1.41

lt987456 · Post by **lt987456** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:07 am

were can i get an older version of HLGuard not the 1.50

Nick|NFo · Post by **Nick|NFo** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:16 am

ahh the power of Google

http://www.cs-expert.de/download/index.php?subcat=23

scroll down to the bottom and you will see 1.41 English

mind if I ask why you do not want to use 1.50? theres 1.50.01 now, its cvars are pretty strong to catch hackers now

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:55 pm

imho

HLG is faulty, if you play with someone who is fairly fast at awping or just good at shooting it will mark them as having an aimbot. Even when you know they dont hack or what have you.

VAC and experience are still the two best resources for catching hackers. Ive heard CD isnt bad but its a pain.

Nick|NFo · Post by **Nick|NFo** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 2:02 pm

Anubis wrote:imho

HLG is faulty, if you play with someone who is fairly fast at awping or just good at shooting it will mark them as having an aimbot. Even when you know they dont hack or what have you.

VAC and experience are still the two best resources for catching hackers. Ive heard CD isnt bad but its a pain.

I can hack past CD, its not that hard, it helps. lets take the cal-i teams for example, I know some of the clans write their own code, integrate it into HL and voila, CD cant block that.

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:21 pm

oh I know dude

I was just saying that based on what Ive heard CD is one of the best

but nothing beats experience

Post by **Edge100x** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:42 pm

We highly recommend that you disable HLGuard's aimbot check ifc you use it, for the reason you mention. It has always had problems, both with faulty detections and by causing lag on the server.

Vm|Mayhem · Post by **Vm|Mayhem** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:12 pm

Anubis wrote:imho

HLG is faulty, if you play with someone who is fairly fast at awping or just good at shooting it will mark them as having an aimbot. Even when you know they dont hack or what have you.

VAC and experience are still the two best resources for catching hackers. Ive heard CD isnt bad but its a pain.

HLG isn't faulty. That's one of the best features of the anticheat. Everyone will get warnings even non-cheaters. But, a cheater will get multiple warnings in a few minutes. The most elite players don't get 4 warnings in 10 mins. like a hacker would.

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:56 pm

[NoCtUrNaL]_Mayhem wrote:HLG isn't faulty. That's one of the best features of the anticheat. Everyone will get warnings even non-cheaters. But, a cheater will get multiple warnings in a few minutes. The most elite players don't get 4 warnings in 10 mins. like a hacker would.

Dude HLG is the faultiest cheat detection program. Look at the logs and see how many times it detects aimbots. I myself have shown up in a lot of logs before and I know I dont hack. People I know have shown up in logs as well. The aimbot detection is so faulty its not even funny. And yes, it would ban someone who is leet. Ive seen dudes bust out the quickest headshots on like 5 people before. HLG would flip out. So would you believe if HLG started giving out warnings or would you demo someone and see if they actually have an aimbot?

Not directed at anyone:

Personal experience is usually the best at detecting things. Try looking up someone's wonid first before you ban (example; in my irc chan I have a wonid_bot that will check wons). If the person comes back listed as being in a league then chances are the person doesnt hack. Especially if its CAL-IM or higher. If they arnt in leagues then you might want to make a demo and review it. Usually with an aimbot; the cursor bounces around on the targets head a little.

The majority of the time, people really arnt hacking. That is why I just decided to go with VAC instead of another anti-cheat program. Because at least 90% of the time the person is legit. And anti-cheat programs are easily beaten. Coders can just look at the anti-cheat code and work around it. Thats how new cheats go undetected.

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:00 pm

acuraCLS wrote:I can hack past CD, its not that hard, it helps. lets take the cal-i teams for example, I know some of the clans write their own code, integrate it into HL and voila, CD cant block that.

Dude if you know I teams that are doing this you really should tell CAL. That makes stuff so unfair. Honestly, I cant stand cheating and it would really suck to find out that some CAL-I clans do this and then win matches.

Vm|Mayhem · Post by **Vm|Mayhem** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:03 pm

Anubis wrote:
[NoCtUrNaL]_Mayhem wrote:HLG isn't faulty. That's one of the best features of the anticheat. Everyone will get warnings even non-cheaters. But, a cheater will get multiple warnings in a few minutes. The most elite players don't get 4 warnings in 10 mins. like a hacker would.
Dude HLG is the faultiest cheat detection program. Look at the logs and see how many times it detects aimbots. I myself have shown up in a lot of logs before and I know I dont hack. People I know have shown up in logs as well. The aimbot detection is so faulty its not even funny. And yes, it would ban someone who is leet. Ive seen dudes bust out the quickest headshots on like 5 people before. HLG would flip out. So would you believe if HLG started giving out warnings or would you demo someone and see if they actually have an aimbot?

Not directed at anyone:

Personal experience is usually the best at detecting things. Try looking up someone's wonid first before you ban (example; in my irc chan I have a wonid_bot that will check wons). If the person comes back listed as being in a league then chances are the person doesnt hack. Especially if its CAL-IM or higher. If they arnt in leagues then you might want to make a demo and review it. Usually with an aimbot; the cursor bounces around on the targets head a little.

The majority of the time, people really arnt hacking. That is why I just decided to go with VAC instead of another anti-cheat program. Because at least 90% of the time the person is legit. And anti-cheat programs are easily beaten. Coders can just look at the anti-cheat code and work around it. Thats how new cheats go undetected.

b4 complaining you might want to read the manual. HLG is a great tool if you know how it works.

You need 4 warnings like this, which is highly unlikely for legit players:

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H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#1 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#2 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#3 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#4 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)

Then you are flaged as a "possible" aimbotter.

Even warnings like this aren't a problem:

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H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#1 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#1 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#1 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)
H e r o i N uniqueid: 3011892 IP://///////// aimbot warning#1 (aim#1, HLG 1.50 at 30/3)

you need a 1,2,3 and 4 warning

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Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:49 pm

Im not complaining and I know how it works. And, yes, Ive seen legit players come up like that in HLG logs before. All Im saying is that its really faulty and it doesnt even work half the time. There are too many disadvantages to it.

1. Its faulty.

2. It works about the same amount of time as VAC does.

3. It lags the server.

4. It will flag legit players.

5. It is not allowed by CAL.

The list goes on. At least while using VAC the player will be banned from all secure serves for like 6 years. I just dont like HLG anymore after I found out all of its flaws and how much it bogs down the server.