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I'm looking into NFO for my SA-MP server. I just have a few questions:

http://www.nfoservers.com/virtual-dedic ... entals.php
There it says "we also dedicate each virtual machine to its own hyperthreaded CPU core(s)". Does that mean it's being dedicated a FULL CPU core, or a hyper thread? As I under stand it, that means a full core, but I just want to be sure. Also, as I understand it, that wouldn't allow for overselling servers, correct?

Why is the Frankfurt location higher in price than the others? Not that it's a lot, but I'm just curious as to why it's higher. Frankfurt is where I plan on hosting due to latency and it being centrally located. The server I'm running has a lot of existing European players, and on my current hosted located in New Jersey, players from places like France get around 160/170 ping. Which location would attacks be BEST handled? I'm aware the capacity is the most important thing, but which location would be the better one for handling attacks? Which location would best serve European players? Or better yet, which location would be the best for a diverse player base?

What kind of control do you get over the firewall? I've heard the panel is pretty good, but what all options does it allow you to block attacks? Is there any automatic detection option?

What Intel processors are used on the VDS servers? At what frequency do that run. I know most of them are probably different, but an idea is nice. I believe I remember seeing they start at 2.0 GHz?

Are there any backup options?

Are there any differences in Linux single core other than the hardware? Is the hardware any different than that of single core?

In the event I want to move my VDS to another location, is this easily done by a staff member? Would I be able to do it?

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Few more quesitons, forgot to ask. Appears I can't edit my thread..

Does NFO use co location for servers? If an outage happens, how is that handled? I suppose there's some sorta "partnership" between InterNAP and NFO, since I'd guess NFO is paying a pretty penny for their services. Trying to ask, do outages fixed quickly usually?

How many clients are typically on the servers? As advertised it's 1 full dedicated core for a single core plan, and I'd guess there's 6/8 cores on the server. Are there multiple processors on one server?
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rymax99 wrote:I'm looking into NFO for my SA-MP server. I just have a few questions:

http://www.nfoservers.com/virtual-dedic ... entals.php
There it says "we also dedicate each virtual machine to its own hyperthreaded CPU core(s)". Does that mean it's being dedicated a FULL CPU core, or a hyper thread? As I under stand it, that means a full core, but I just want to be sure. Also, as I understand it, that wouldn't allow for overselling servers, correct?
Each physical core has 2 HT cores(using intel hyperthreading). The performance is very close to a full core. It is impossible for NFO to oversell their servers.
Why is the Frankfurt location higher in price than the others? Not that it's a lot, but I'm just curious as to why it's higher. Frankfurt is where I plan on hosting due to latency and it being centrally located. The server I'm running has a lot of existing European players, and on my current hosted located in New Jersey, players from places like France get around 160/170 ping. Which location would attacks be BEST handled? I'm aware the capacity is the most important thing, but which location would be the better one for handling attacks? Which location would best serve European players? Or better yet, which location would be the best for a diverse player base?
The price of doing business in Frankfurt is higher. Attacks are generally handled the same at all locations, with a few exceptions. I can't speak for John, but since Frankfurt is a recent addition to NFO it should have the latest and greatest hardware/routing equipment of any location. The best location for a diverse playerbase is probably NYC, but your france/EU players will still have a 100+ ping on average.
What kind of control do you get over the firewall? I've heard the panel is pretty good, but what all options does it allow you to block attacks? Is there any automatic detection option?
You get a TON of control over your firewall, since the host machine is linux-based you get advanced firewall rules even when running a windows OS(on VDS machines). Automatic detection is present in Frankfurt because of NFOs router they have there. Most common pre-binned attacks that skiddies use are automatically blocked up to 20gig :)
What Intel processors are used on the VDS servers? At what frequency do that run. I know most of them are probably different, but an idea is nice. I believe I remember seeing they start at 2.0 GHz?
The most common ones in Frankfurt I would guess are:
E5-2690v2(x2 in each VDS machines): http://ark.intel.com/products/75279/Int ... e-3_00-GHz
E3-1270v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75056/Int ... e-3_50-GHz
What you get will be luck of the draw, but NFO doesn't have any older hardware in Frankfurt to my knowledge
Are there any backup options?
You must maintain your own backups on VDS's.
Are there any differences in Linux single core other than the hardware? Is the hardware any different than that of single core?
Single core linux-only are(in my experience) placed on NFOs older hardware, as that is the most cost effective option. The older hardware is still good for a lot of lower slot count servers. $10 is a steal for a single dedicated core VDS regardless.
In the event I want to move my VDS to another location, is this easily done by a staff member? Would I be able to do it?
Your VDS location can be moved at any time by you, by simply selecting "this is a change to an existing VDS" on the order page, detailed here: http://www.nfoservers.com/forums/viewto ... =47&t=4546 Remember moving locations will result in an IP change.
Does NFO use co location for servers? If an outage happens, how is that handled? I suppose there's some sorta "partnership" between InterNAP and NFO, since I'd guess NFO is paying a pretty penny for their services. Trying to ask, do outages fixed quickly usually?
Yes, they colo their machines. Depending on the outage, John will work ASAP, day or night to get everything back online. He will also communicate through the "events log" tab in your control panel on any status updates as they come to him.
How many clients are typically on the servers? As advertised it's 1 full dedicated core for a single core plan, and I'd guess there's 6/8 cores on the server. Are there multiple processors on one server?
Depending on the CPU you are placed on, it can be as few as 3+ or as much as 40. on the E5-2690v2 machines, there are 2 CPUs in a machine, the v2s are 10 core and 20 HT cores, so a potential of up to 40 cores(remember a customer might have up to 12 cores for 1 VDS). I think they need to leave a few cores for the host though, so it might be a max of 39. John will need to clarify this if he can take the time to reply :) The 1270v3 machines are 8 HT cores and are not in a multi-cpu configuration.

Hope I answered your questions, if you are still unclear or have more questions, ask away!
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Thank you, soja.

"The price of doing business in Frankfurt is higher. Attacks are generally handled the same at all locations, with a few exceptions. I can't speak for John, but since Frankfurt is a recent addition to NFO it should have the latest and greatest hardware/routing equipment of any location. The best location for a diverse playerbase is probably NYC, but your france/EU players will still have a 100+ ping on average."
The only problems I'm noticing are Asian players, a player from the Philippines, and one from Cali that seem to have bad ping. They all told me they had pretty bad ping on most servers, so that doesn't really worry me TOO badly.

However, on what basis would you say NYC is better for a diverse player base? I tend to pick France/Germany for servers because it's a central location. 100 ping is no problem, when it starts to get to 200-300 it gets noticeable, at 400 it's annoying.


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However, on what basis would you say NYC is better for a diverse player base? I tend to pick France/Germany for servers because it's a central location. 100 ping is no problem, when it starts to get to 200-300 it gets noticeable, at 400 it's annoying.
This mostly comes due to how South American ISP's route their clients. Pretty much all EU traffic is going to pass through NYC as well, so it provides a decent middle ground.
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kraze wrote:
However, on what basis would you say NYC is better for a diverse player base? I tend to pick France/Germany for servers because it's a central location. 100 ping is no problem, when it starts to get to 200-300 it gets noticeable, at 400 it's annoying.
This mostly comes due to how South American ISP's route their clients. Pretty much all EU traffic is going to pass through NYC as well, so it provides a decent middle ground.
Are there any "odd ball" countries/ISPs that may not do that? Are there any aspects in which Frankfurt would be a better location? And are there any differences in DDoS protection at NY and Frankfurt?

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rymax99 wrote:
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However, on what basis would you say NYC is better for a diverse player base? I tend to pick France/Germany for servers because it's a central location. 100 ping is no problem, when it starts to get to 200-300 it gets noticeable, at 400 it's annoying.
This mostly comes due to how South American ISP's route their clients. Pretty much all EU traffic is going to pass through NYC as well, so it provides a decent middle ground.
Are there any "odd ball" countries/ISPs that may not do that? Are there any aspects in which Frankfurt would be a better location? And are there any differences in DDoS protection at NY and Frankfurt?

Thanks a lot!
I wouldn't think so, since it wouldn't make sense not to route them through NYC, at least in that area. NYC and Fankfurt are also similar in protection.
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rymax99 wrote:Thank you, soja.

"The price of doing business in Frankfurt is higher. Attacks are generally handled the same at all locations, with a few exceptions. I can't speak for John, but since Frankfurt is a recent addition to NFO it should have the latest and greatest hardware/routing equipment of any location. The best location for a diverse playerbase is probably NYC, but your france/EU players will still have a 100+ ping on average."
The only problems I'm noticing are Asian players, a player from the Philippines, and one from Cali that seem to have bad ping. They all told me they had pretty bad ping on most servers, so that doesn't really worry me TOO badly.

However, on what basis would you say NYC is better for a diverse player base? I tend to pick France/Germany for servers because it's a central location. 100 ping is no problem, when it starts to get to 200-300 it gets noticeable, at 400 it's annoying.


Thanks for your time.
Frankfurt would probably be better for an Asian playerbase, purely based on distance. I don't think you will come up with a solution that will give everyone great ping. You can have some players that play from the Philippines test their ping here: https://www.nfoservers.com/networklocations.php and see which is a better location for players around them.

I say NY because it provides on average <100 ping for all NA clients, decent pings for SA, and decent pings(~100) for European clients closer to the ocean.
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