More locations

[theRadAleks]

Hi, I know NFO usually uses InterNAP for all its locations so i visited InterNAP's website and saw that they have alot of locations that they provide services for, like London, and Canada. I just wanted to say if NFO does plan on expanding i would recommend London as a new location, because almost all UK GSP are pure shit in my opinion, and it would be good for business.

[kraze]

There is a good chance our next location would be England(I have no inside information, purely a guess). Frankfurt itself was a big leap for us and more importantly a big test to see how a foreign location would work out. Overall it's done well, but we're still likely a few years away from another location.

[theRadAleks]

Sounds good!

[Edge100x]

London is certainly where we'd go for a second EU expansion. My only real concern with it is that it's still relatively close to Frankfurt in terms of latencies, and I'm not sure if the demand is there for it. I'm also not sure how Internap's infrastructure stacks up there (I was told previously that Frankfurt was much stronger for them).

I'd also like to open an Asia/Pacific location, but currently the capabilities of hosts in that region do not meet our bandwidth requirements at a reasonable price point (we require large connections to help our customers handle large DDoS attacks).

[Weasel]

I'd also like to open an Asia/Pacific location, but currently the capabilities of hosts in that region do not meet our bandwidth requirements at a reasonable price point (we require large connections to help our customers handle large DDoS attacks).

Any change in status regarding Asia/Pacific hosting? I know what you mean about bandwidth being expensive there. I used to have a server in Hong Kong and they provided only a fraction of the bandwidth for the same price compared to North America. Ever since I shut-down my Asia/Pacific server in Hong Kong, my old players from there keep bugging me about when I am going to have another one. It appears to be a severely under-served market, at least for Valve titles anyway. I used to get way more usage on my Asia/Pacific TF2 server, compared to my North America one. It was like twice as heavily utilized. Unfortunately, I did have some reliability issues with the host there, and kept hitting their (extremely low) bandwidth caps and stuff.

[Edge100x]

It's not just the price, but also the availability of the type of bandwidth quantities that we would need in order to mitigate DDoS attacks, which are an unfortunate fact of life with game server hosting. If we go forward with a new location, we want to make sure that it won't be readily knocked offline by attacks.

It is still something that we're looking into. Internap has no real options in Asia that meet this criteria.

[Weasel]

PS: I noticed on InterNAP's web-site (here) that they now say they have data-centers in:

• Hong Kong (link)
• Singapore (link)
• Tokyo (link)

[doulos9]

Any plans to upgrade Denver to 10000Mbps, or more?

[kraze]

Any plans to upgrade Denver to 10000Mbps, or more?

Denver may see additional upgrades in the future, but as of now Denver is a very small location for us and for Internap in general. Making upgrades difficult to do.

[rymax99]

PS: I noticed on InterNAP's web-site (here) that they now say they have data-centers in:

• Hong Kong (link)
• Singapore (link)
• Tokyo (link)

Bare in mind, even if those locations meets NFO's bandwidth needs at a reasonable cost, it's not as simple as NFO just asking Internap to spin up some servers and Internap taking care of them in the event something fails. NFO co-locates all of their hardware, including routers, all servers, etc. Therefore, it costs money for NFO to build the servers, ship them, and support them.

[Sckewi]

I'd just like to add +1 for London!

[soja]

I realize latencies are important, but why not just use the Frankfurt, DE location if you are in London?

[theRadAleks]

Well than what was the point of the San Jose location when Los Angeles is so close to it. Its closer then Frankfurt is to London.

[soja]

Its bandwidth availability and proximity to where the servers are built makes it cheaper to open additional US locations, so opening more that are close to each other is easier I assume.

[kraze]

A lot of it has to do with natural routing properties. If I remember correctly San Jose provides the best Latency to Australian clients. Same for NYC with South American clients, due to how those ISPs normally route their traffic it hits NYC first then everywhere else.

Though, in general, locations farther away from are more expensive since it cost additional money to ship. An example of this is Frankfurt. Shipping machines overseas is very expensive. Not to mention bandwidth and power are normally very expensive in foreign locations.